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About The Guild, The Guild Adv. Software & Adv. Workshop...

#1 Post by Gunness » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:39 am

I've been adding some game data from Aran (iamaran), which he has gathered from Gamebase 64. Well, as it turns out GB64 has some information which is in need of an update.

So can anyone help me out here:
Is "The Guild Adventure Software" the same company as "The Guild"? I'd say it's not, given the time frame of the companies' releases and use of systems (BASIC vs. The Quill, mainly).

And were some of "The Guild"'s games released by The Adventure Workshop instead?

In both cases, the GB64 crew would love to see some evidence (product catalogues or similar).

Can any of you knowledgeable people help?

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Re: About The Guild, The Guild Adv. Software & Adv. Workshop

#2 Post by Alex » Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:28 pm

I think they are one and the same company. I searched Zapp64 but could only find the address of the Guild which was:
The Guild
Tony Collins
760 Tyburn Road
Erdington
Birmingham
B24 9NX

They released some compilations on tape and disk with the company name of The Guild PD. I know there was some add about this compilation. I searched zzapp magazine but didn't find it until know. (will keep searching :) ) I once had the original tapes (that is until last year when I sold my collection of original C64 tapes) and these contained both games from the Guild and the Guild adventure software. Fortunately, the guild software was bought by Jason 'Kenz' Mackenzie the founder of Binary Zone PD. He released a cd-rom with all the binary zone-pd disks but more interesting as a bonus he included the guild pd disks he found between the stuff he bought from the Guild. This cd is still available from:

http://www.binaryzone.org/retrostore/in ... cts_id=218

Jason writes on the disk:
Jason Mackenzie wrote:
THE GUILD - PD SOFTWARE

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This section was a last minute addition to this CD-ROM. I quite
literally found all these disks in my WARDROBE!! When I took over
"The Guild Adventure Software" a few years ago I was sent all the
commercial adventures along with 20 disks of PD software.

I've ported all the PD adventure gamess (NOT the commercial games
of course!) and I've also included two Binary Zone PD Adventure
Compilations - "The Best of the Guild" as an extra bonus. (These
feature some of the best games I found while going through the
Guild PD collection).

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GUILD01A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 1 - Side 1).


CASTLE WARLOCK

SQUEAK!

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GUILD01B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 1 - Side 2).


NYTHYHEL PT1

NYTHYHEL PT2

ENERGEM ENIGMA

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GUILD02A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 1 - Side 1).


THESEUS1

THESEUS2

SCEPTRE/DEMO V1

STREET LIFE

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GUILD02B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 2 - Side 2).


CORYAPT1 DEMO

PHANTASMAGORIA

CHILLERVILLA

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GUILD03A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 3 - Side 1).


CASTLE MAZE ADV.

ADV.IN ATLANTIS

CAVERN/RICHES

DUTCHMAN'S GOLD

WILL O' THE WISP

THIRSTY NELLAN.C

POW ADV-REV

DRACULA.40

TREASURE ISLAND

HAUNTED HOUSE-B

MY HOUSE

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GUILD03B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 3 - Side 2).


CITY OF ATLANTIS

FARRAGUT

SEVEN GABLES

OSBORNE CAS MYS

NUKE (CV)

ZEEBLE

TIME WARP

SURVIVAL

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GUILD04A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 4 - Side 1).


DOCTOR'S DEMISE

VALLEY BOOT

VALLEY OF CESIS

H.D.K.

TORQUEST0

TORQUEST1

TORQUEST2

TORQUEST3

GUERILLA WARFARE

BLACKPOOL TOWER

NO NAME ADV.

THE MAGICIAN

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GUILD04B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 4 - Side 2).


DRACULA ADV.

DOG STAR ADV

FOREST OF EVIL

FAIRYTALE ADV.

DERELICT DOC

DERELICT

NECTAR OF GODS

AMAZING ADV.

HOSTAGE

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GUILD05A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 5 - Side 1).


FAMOUS FIVE DE

JOE DICK BOOT

MEMORY

DRAGON DUNGEON

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GUILD05B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 5 - Side 2).


COSMIC CAPERS

HASSLE CASTLE

HAUNTED HO.A(CV)

FOREST.LAND

THE QUEST

SHAKEY CITY-REV.

BUTTONS

SPACE HUNT

SURVIVE

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GUILD06A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 6 - Side 1).


MISSING ADV

DUNGEONS & DRAGS

HITCH HIKER

KING TUT

MARTIAN PRISONER

TREASURE QUEST

HOT & COLD MENU

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GUILD06B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 6 - Side 2).


GIANT'S GOLD

DEATHSHIP

PICTURE KINGDOM

ODINSHRINE

SORCEROR (Q)

TUNNEL MAZE.C

ASHBY MANOR

STAFF OF LAW

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GUILD07A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 7 - Side 1).


EYE OF THE INCA

THE UNKNOWN

LAND/GIANTS

VALLEY LOADER.C

EVIL RIDGE

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GUILD07B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 7 - Side 2).


DARKWOOD

SEQ FILE VIEWER

DARKWOOD.DOC

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GUILD08A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 8 - Side 1).


DRACULA II

INSTRUCTIONS

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GUILD08B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 8 - Side 2).


CIRCLEWORLD

DARTH VADER

EARTHQUAKE

JOURNEY/EARTH

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GUILD09A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 9 - Side 1).


RANSOM THE KING

ADVENTURELAND

THIRSTY NELLAN

ODDESSY

AUSSIE ASSAULT

CLEMENS

BLOODY ADV.

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GUILD09B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 9 - Side 2).


SORCERERS CASTLE

ALICE

TROLL CASTLE

GRUNGY TOWERS

DUNGEON OF GODS

CANNIBAL ADV

CROOKED CANYON

GOTHAM RUNNER

CAVERN/RICHES

DUTCHMAN'S GOLD

ICELAND ADVEN.

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GUILD10A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 10 - Side 1).


SCARY

DILEMMA

AFRICAN ADV

ADVENTURE LAND

THE HOLY GRAIL

NIELSON PAP. V.2

CAVE EXPLORER

SPOOKY HOUSE

STONEVILLE

VOYAGE/ATLANTIS

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GUILD10B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 10 - Side 2).


ENCOUNTER.SPEED

EYE OF KADATH.C

DAMSELS BOOT

VAMPYRE HUNTER

ELF RESCUE

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GUILD11A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 11 - Side 1).


THE UNKNOWN

STARFLIGHT

HAUNTED MANSION

CAVES OF ICE.2

GOLDEN CHALICE

THE DARK FOREST

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GUILD11B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 11 - Side 2).


THE GOLD ICON

CREEPY CAVES

THE VALLEY

MARPLE MANOR

SEA ROUTE/INDIA

MATH DUNGEON

PIRATE COVE

TOOTHLESS VAMP

LAB OF CREATOR

CASTLE DUNGEON

HAUNTED CASTLE

HAUNTED CAS.INST

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GUILD12A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 12 - Side 1).


GRYPHON'S PEARL

SEQ FILE VIEWER

GRYPHON.DOC

CANIBLE

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GUILD12B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 12 - Side 2).


ADVENTURE 64

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GUILD13A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 13 - Side 1).


COMPLEX

ISLAND ADV.

EYE OF THE INCA

THE FORMULA

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GUILD13B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 13 - Side 2).


WESTWARD HO

OVERLORD

HUNT THE WUMPUS

SPECIAL DELIVERY

DUNGEON.40

CASTLE ADVENTURE

SUPERMAN

MEDIEVAL ADVENTU

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GUILD14A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 14 - Side 1).


PYRAMID

UNDERGROUND ADV.

GLADIATOR

SLEUTH.1

MISER BOOT

MISER

TERROR CASTLE

CAVES OF SILVER

SCARY

EARTHQUAKE

MT ST.HELENS

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GUILD14B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 14 - Side 2).


HAUNTED MANOR

LONE RANGER

BLOODY ADV.

GRUNGY TOWERS

WIZARD'S CASTLE

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GUILD15A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 15 - Side 1).


STALAG 23

STONE TABLE

TUNNEL OF TIME

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GUILD15B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 15 - Side 2).


COUNTRY CAPERS

DARKEST AFRICA

ZANUSS

GREAT MISSION

PARISIAN

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GUILD16A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 16 - Side 1).


UNDERWORLD/KYN

WHO DONE IT

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GUILD16B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 16 - Side 2).


RETURN/EARTH

SEARCH FOR REAPE

SOR.VAMPIRES

SACRED CROSS

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GUILD17A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 17 - Side 1).


CITADEL

UNTERGARTE64/128

UNTER.INST

THE LAND

S/M/TIMBERS

INSTRUCTIONS

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GUILD17B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 17 - Side 2).


TEMPORAL

WEST

DEATH VALLEY

LIGHTHOUSE

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GUILD18A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 18 - Side 1).


AFRICAN ESCAPE

BOMB THREAT

COMPUTER ADV

HAUNTED MANSION

HOSPITAL ADV

JACK & BEANSTALK

MOON BASE ALPHA

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GUILD18B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 18 - Side 2).


CRYPT

CRYPTO DOC

MYSTERY

QUANTUM QUEST

QUANTUM INST

SLEUTH

VENTURE QUEST

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GUILD19A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 19 - Side 1).


AMAZING ADV.

CLEMEN'S REVENGE

DERELICT

DERELICT DOC

DOG STAR ADV

DRACULA ADV.

FAIRYTALE ADV.

FOREST OF EVIL

ICELAND ADVEN.

HOSTAGE

CLEMEN'S REV.

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GUILD19B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 19 - Side 2).


HIMALAYA ODYSSEY

MYSTERY ISLAND

NECTAR OF GODS

OASIS

ON THE RUN

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GUILD20A.D64 (Guild PD Disk 20 - Side 1).


RAKA TUA

AKBAR KHAN

SOLOMONS

DEMONS PART I

DEMONS PART II

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GUILD20B.D64 (Guild PD Disk 20 - Side 2).


TRAP SPRINGER

VAMPYRE HUNTER

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BEST01A.D64 (Guild PD Adventures 1 - Side 1).


GUILD PD GAMES 1

ADV.IN ATLANTIS

AFRICAN ADV.

AKBAR KHAN

AMAZING ADV.

BLACKPOOL TOWER

BUTTONS

CASTLE MAZE ADV.

CAVE EXPLORER

CAVES OF SILVER

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BEST01B.D64 (Guild PD Adventures 1 - Side 2).


CHILLERVILLA

CITADEL/YAH-MON

COUNTRY CAPERS

CORYA PT1 DEMO

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BEST02A.D64 (Guild PD Adventures 2 - Side 1).


CROOKED CANYON

DAMSELS BOOT

DARKEST AFRICA

DERELICT

DILEMMA

DOCTOR'S DEMISE

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BEST02B.D64 (Guild PD Adventures 2 - Side 2).


DRACULA ADV.

DRACULA 2 PART 1

DRACULA 2 PART 2

DUNGEON OF GODS

ELF RESCUE

ESCAPE & EVADE 1

ESCAPE & EVADE 2

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BEST03A.D64 (Guild PD Adventures 3 - Side 1).


ESCAPE/ZANUSS

EVIL RIDGE

EYE OF KADATH

EYE OF THE INCA

FAIRYTALE ADV.

FOREST OF EVIL

GIANT'S GOLD

GREAT MISSION

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BEST03B.D64 (Guild PD Adventures 3 - Side 2).


GRUNGY TOWERS

GUERILLA WARFARE

H.D.K.

HASSLE CASTLE

THE HOLY GRAIL

HIMALAYA ODYSSEY

ICELAND ADV.

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BEST04A.D64 (Guild PD Adventures 4 - Side 1).


GUILD PD GAMES 2

ISLAND ADV.

LAND/GIANTS

MARPLE MANOR

MEDIEVAL ADV.

MYSTERY ISLAND

NECTAR OF GODS

NIELSON PAPERS

NO NAME ADV.

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BEST04B.D64 (Guild PD Adventures 4 - Side 2).


MY HOUSE

OASIS

PHANTASMAGORIA

PIRATE COVE

RAKA TUA

RETALIATION

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BEST05A.D64 (Guild PD Adventures 5 - Side 1).


SCEPTRE DEMO/PSY

SEARCH/REAPER

SEA ROUTE/INDIA

SHAKEY CITY

SLEUTH

SOLOMONS TRES.

SORCEROR (Q)

SPACE HUNT

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BEST05B.D64 (Guild PD Adventures 5 - Side 2).


SPECIAL DELIVERY

SPOOKY HOUSE

STAFF OF LAW

STONE TABLE

STREET LIFE

SURVIVAL

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BEST06A.D64 (Guild PD Adventures 6 - Side 1).


SURVIVE

TERROR CASTLE

THE UNKNOWN

THIRSTY NELLAN

TOOTHLESS VAMP.

TRAP SPRINGER

TREASURE ISLAND

TUNNEL OF TIME

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BEST06B.D64 (Guild PD Adventures 6 - Side 2).


UNDERGROUND ADV.

VAMPYRE HUNTER

VOYAGE/ATLANTIS

WHO DONE IT

WILL O' THE WISP
If you want to be sure, maybe you can contact Jason on his e-mail:

kenz (at) binaryzone (dot) org

(I've edited the e-mail address because we don't want some spambot picking up the address and spamming Jason - Alastair)

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Re: About The Guild, The Guild Adv. Software & Adv. Workshop

#3 Post by Gunness » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:44 am

Excellent advice, Alex! I've written to Jason already. And it would seem that we have quite some way to go when it comes to TGAS titles in our database :)

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Re: About The Guild, The Guild Adv. Software & Adv. Workshop

#4 Post by Gunness » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:21 pm

Well, after much mailing to and fro, the case is closed (sort of). The Guild and TG Adventure Software are indeed one and the same company, and the games listed over on Gamebase64 as TGAS are actually just plain, normal PD titles which The Guild decided to release on a number of discs.

In all these instances, I'd say that it would be more correct to set the Company as either "public domain" or the name(s) of the author(s). The fact that The Guild gathered these games years after they were initially released doesn't change the fact that they weren't originally released by The Guild.

Does that make sense?

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Re: About The Guild, The Guild Adv. Software & Adv. Workshop

#5 Post by Gunness » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:09 am

Opinions?

THe only reason I'm pursuing this is that in all likelihood there will be similar cases down the road.

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Re: About The Guild, The Guild Adv. Software & Adv. Workshop...

#6 Post by Strident » Sat May 23, 2020 1:59 pm

Just spotted this @Gunness after noticing that we have two entries for The Guild as a publisher. :)

The Guild and The Guild Adventure Software publisher entries need to be combined into a single entry.

Yes, they are both the same. The problem is, that a lot of the C64 games they "published" were public domain or produced and sold by a different company earlier, so... although it looks like they were around and publishing games in the 1980s... they actually weren't... they're at least a secondary publisher for pre-90s games. However, they're the only currently known publisher for a lot of those titles.

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